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Hi, I’m a 19 year old girl who has suffered major hair thinning. I’ve just discovered about this community/project a few days ago. Uptil now, this seems to be probably the most resourceful place I’ve seen.
I’ve been pretty desperate for answers.
As a child, my hair was extremely thick. However, as I grew up, my hair become progressively thinner. Two years go, I went on an unhealthy diet and I started to really notice that my hair was extremely thin (also, my hair was falling out like crazy). I thought that it was due to the fact that I didn’t get enough vitamins, so I started to eat healthily again. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately, my hair only stopped shedding like crazy, but no new hair grew back to replace those I lost.
It has been 2 years, and my hair is still quite thin. Most people can’t see it, but I definitely can - especially when my hair is greasy or when I tie it in a ponytail (you can see my scalp very clearly).
I’ve read as much as I could on women hair loss, and nothing seems to really fit my symptoms. I took a blood test and it showed that my levels were perfectly fine.
After reading as much as I could, there were really only 2 diseases that sort of fit my simptoms.
1. Hypothyroidism - my mother has that
2. Androgenetic alopecia - my hair is thin all over my head and my hairline is not receeding.
However, the only thing that doesn’t seem to quite “fit” is the falling of my hair. My hair does not seem thinner than it was 2 years ago. I do not lose an excessive amount of hair (contrary to the many testimonies I’ve read). When I comb my hair after a shower, I would loose maybe 5-10 strands. In some ways, my hair loss seems proportionnal to the amount of hair I have.
I often get depressed because of the state of my hair - especially when I see my friends with thick hair and get to choose different styles of haircuts while I’m stuck to one. I can’t confirm with 100% certainty that my situation hasn’t worsen. From what I can see, it seems to have stabilized. But sometimes, when I look at old pictures, I start believing that it did in fact get worse. Afterwards, I panick and can’t sleep at night.
Questions:
Does androgenetic alopecia have different “levels” of hair loss? I haven’t taken any medication to help, but I know for sure that I do not lose a crazy amount of hair. However, I am also certain that this is certainly not normal for a teenage girl to have so little hair (I now have less than 50% of the hair I used to have as a child, and from the top of my head, my scalp is pretty visible). From what I can see, I do, in fact, have new hair that grow, but not many.
I am so desperate for answers. Although you may not have any precise answers for me, I’d greatly appreciate your point of view on my situation.
Thank you,
Linda
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Dear Linda,
Thanks for writing me and I’m sorry to hear that you are struggling with this. First things first, stop.. take a deep breath, let it all out and take a moment to reflect on how lucky you are that your hair loss has stabilized for the past two years. Losing 5 -10 hairs after a shower is remarkable, you’ll be the envy of all my readers
Having said that, I do understand your concerns and pain in having to deal with less hair than you had before. I must state upfront that I am not a physician and cannot provide medical information or diagnosis, anything I write is really just my opinion and knowledge gained from living with hair loss myself for the past 9 years (yikes that sounds like a lot). With that disclaimer out of the way I can continue on.
Diet and hair.
We often don’t think about the two going hand in hand, but nutrition and lack of it can certainly affect our hair positively and adversely. Anorexics and bulimics often times experience hair loss or a change in the quality and texture of their hair. If the diet was the cause of the hair loss, a healthy balanced diet could stop the hair loss and enable it to grow back, but it doesn’t always grow back to be the same as it was before. Nothing is 100% (especially when talking about women’s hair loss) and I’m sure that for some women, their hair does grow back in full and thick, but I’m speaking in generalities.
Your story prompted it me to do some searching online myself, since I was perplexed that your hair loss stabilized for two years without drug intervention, but that you did not experience any regrowth or thickening of the hair during that time. I did read that certain factors can trigger androgenetic alopecia (female pattern hair loss) in individuals who were already genetically predisposed to it. One of those factors is extreme malnutrition. This is news to me. I knew that altering your hormones by taking birth control pills could kick in androgenetic alopecia, but I did not know it could be triggered by a variety of other things as well.
Related Article You May Find Useful: Nutrition and Hair Loss - Is There a Hormonal Connection?
Consult a Doctor
If you have not yet been seen by a physician you really should make that your first step. It’s is true that many doctors take very little interest in women’s hair loss, but by discussing your particular situation with them they may be able to help shed some light and run a number of tests that can help to diagnose you. Dr. Sara Wasserbauer wrote a blog post in the Women’s Hair Loss Project Network titled “Hair Tests I Recommend”
Below are the tests:
T3, T4, TSH (for thyroid)
Ferritin (for anemia)
DHEA (hormones)
Total testosterone (PCOS, hormones)
CBC (multiple reasons)
ESR (autoimmune diseases)
She also writes, ” And I also check to see if the person has had recent high fever, stress, low protein diet (i.e. vegetarian), menopause, birth, medication changes, surgery.”
Another Related Article: Endocrinologist or Dermatologist? Which Doctor Should I See For My Hair Loss?
Your Question
Does androgenetic alopecia have different “levels” of hair loss? I’d say heck YES. In my own experience and in speaking and interacting with hundreds of women with hair loss, androgenetic alopecia while it only gets one definition in the dictionary, can take on different forms for different women. Some women experience more thinning on the top, some more on the top and side of the head, some more on the side less on the top and some just overall equal thinning around the scalp. The rate at which the hair is lost varies from woman to woman, as I’m sure so does the rate of miniturization.
There is a female cashier I’ve seen over the last 8 years or so and I remember the first day I saw her. I thought wow her hair loss is so progressed and her ponytail seemed no thicker than the width of a pencil. I was certain that the years that followed would remove what was left of her already thin hair. I was at the early stages of my hair loss so I had mountains of hair compared to her, yet of course as all women with hair loss do, feared that would be my fate. Years pealed away and her hair has not changed, not one bit. It is the same gray and the same thinness as it has been since the day I met her. Make no mistake, this is a woman who suffered hair loss, its not “naturally” thin hair. But for whatever reason her hair loss halted and did not continue to progress, it didn’t get better either. But I guess my point is perhaps you are experiencing androgenetic alopecia at an extremely slow rate or perhaps it is something associated with your thyroid or iron. There really is no way for me to know that. While I know my words won’t be easy for you to swallow, I speak from the heart and from nine years of painful shedding and self realization: You are so incredibly fortunate that your hair loss has not have progressively thinned over the last 2 years since the initial onset. You really need to be so thankful for that. That is a really good sign and with a little more detective work and a good doctor by your side you may just uncover what is causing your hair to remain thinned.
Join The Women’s Hair Loss Project Network
The Women’s Hair Loss Project Network
( http://community.womenshairlossproject.com/ )has some incredible women, who are there to listen and share information and support with one another. Women’s hair loss is hard to deal with alone, I suffered alone for many years. It helps so much to interact with other women who understand.
Final Thoughts
Often times we forget to thank god for what we have right now in this moment. My hair is extremely thin, but I wish that I could just keep what I have right now, as thin as it is. I’d vow to never fuss or complain if I knew this was mine, ALL MINE and that the endless perpetual shedding would stop. I’m 9 years in and I am still losing, I still lost 60 hairs in the comb today. It seems every hair left on my head is on loan, so I guess I better make the best of it while I still have a little bit left
Linda, I know how hard it is, don’t give up. Start consulting with some physicians. Also there is no rule that you can only see one, so see several.
I wish I had more answers, and I sure as heck wish I could grow hair… I’d be sprinkling my fellow hair loss gals with fairy hair growth dust!
Take Care.
All The Best,
~Y
If anyone has any words for Linda, leave your comments below. Sharing is healing… I promise.


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Stacy 08.29.08 at 12:26 am
Hi Linda,
Thanks for sharing your story with us, Y answered your questions really well, but I’d just like to add a bit.
From the looks of it, I will make an estimated guess that your hair loss was triggered by your change in diet. This type of hair loss is called: Telogen Effluvium.
Your body went through a ‘trauma’ (your change in diet) and as a result you had hair loss. Now the idea is how to improve your hair, hopefully it will take time to grow back on its own. If not, there are treatments available out there for you.
Androgentic Alopecia usually begins at the diffusion of your hair line, so the hair thinning starts in the middle and spreads outwards. I don’t think this is what you are going through.
And I have to agree with Y, losing 5-10 hairs in the shower is GREAT! Not to rub it in, but I usually lose 20 hairs, and this is normal too. On average, we lose 40-70 hairs per day, anything over 100 hairs is consider excessive hair loss.
You say your hair is greasy, I advise you to wash it everyday, its a bit counter intuitive, because you might be worried that washing will increase your hair loss. But actually its most important to keep a clean and healthy scalp.
Linda, this might sound incredibly annoying, but I’d like to ask you to LOVE YOURSELF. Stick to a healthy diet and avoid crash diets. Any trauma your body has now will affect it in the future. When you feel sad
about your hair, know that there are others just like you and you have us here to chat and express your concerns.
Thanks for sharing and I hope that we can help you.
Best wishes,
Stacy
MJ 08.29.08 at 11:31 am
This is just my opinion. See a dermatologist right away that specializes in hair loss. He/she will diagnose your type of hair loss. Don’t spend money looking for products over the internet, you will waste your money. Thyroid panel/iron panel is a must. What type of diet? Do you eat meat? Some people live on vegan diets, which could cause your hair to fall out. Do you take birth control pills or other methods that contain hormones, this can cause your hair to fall out. I hope you are not taking Iodoral, it has high doses of iodine which can result in losing your hair, it happened to me. My friend in NY has alopecia, she is now completely bald. This is what my dermatologist told me to take, Biosil 10 mg daily (2capsules) and Biotin (5000mcg), most of my hair has grown back. Remember what works for me, may not work for you. See your doctor
MJ,
MSN, RN
Rosedala 09.03.08 at 7:51 pm
Oh wow Linda, Y’s answer is very thorough and it should help you a lot! It pains me to see someone THIS young to suffer hair loss, but, among all the other good advice from Y, good nutrition is most important for every part of our bodies, and the hair is not an exception.
However I respectfully disagree with Dr. Sara’s statement that vegetarians don’t get enough protein, may I say that most foods that vegetarians eat have proteins 1st hand rather than 2nd hand from the animals, for which reason our problem is usually how to NOT ingest so much protein as it has been proven that it will rob calcium from our bones. I’ve been a vegetarian for well over 30 years (stopped counting) :o) and a vegan (more strict vegetarian) for about 25 years. I’m 80 years old, totally free of any illness, and I noticed the thinning of my hair only since around 2 years ago, and only the last months I saw a little more thinning on the top of my head called, I learned, alopecia aereata. Yes, I understand we all lose it differently and for different reasons, but thought I’d give my own experience.
Linda, since you’re so young there’s more hope. Do get on a very healthy diet as soon as possible. You may want to read one of Dr. M. McDougall’s books, like “The McDougall Program for Women” (It’s $10 and you can get a used one at Barnes & Noble where I get all my 2nd hand books), you must consistently follow their nutritional advice, and also you can view the many great vegan recipes here: http://vegweb.com/index.php?action=recipecategories. And, consistent good exercises should also be part of your life for thorough wellbeing in your present and future.
While you are working very hard to regain your excellent health (which will also revitalize your spirit), there’s a company in New Jersey that offers a wonderful method, totally non-invasive from every point of view and totally invisible. I saw them once on TV, so I called and was sent a DVD. I liked it and I went for a free consultation and demonstration. I took an acquaintance who’s extremely skeptic to help me decide because it’s very expensive ($1500 for 21 square inches) and even she surprised me that she’ll consider it for herself!). You can request a free DVD and see for yourself before you take any step. Here’s where to ask:
Sequence
106 Grand Avenue - 3rd Floor
Englewood, NJ 07631
800-253-6388
http://sequencehair.com/?gclid=CLXXkPjGs5UCFSgRGgodNUq4QA
Of course, the distance could be a deterrent, but many people go to other countries for plastic surgery, so… However, you have nothing to lose by seeing the DVD.
I wish you the best of luck in getting your own hair back! I have the feeling you will… ;o) Rosedala
P.S. One more link about plant proteins: http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html , and if anyone wishes more links about plant food, let me know and I’ll post them.
Marina 09.17.08 at 9:46 pm
Rosedala is right, vegetarian/vegan diets are not only healthier than the meatbased diets plus they give you all the protein you need, easily. And from all the vegans I know, they all have a lot of hair in theis heads, very thick and healthy hair (I am the only one I know who has a hair problem).
I must say that I’m going through exactly the same thing you are. I am 21 and i used to have a lot of hair when i was a kid, but when i was about 15 I started losing it, I lost more than 50% of all the hair I used to have. But it kinda stooped falling a few years later. By the time I was 18 I had the same amout of hair I have today, it is sort of stable. And, like you, I took many blood tests and they all indicated no nutricinal problems at all. I started losing hair only 3 years after I became a vegetarian, so I guess it has nothing to do with my eating habits.
I try not to get too depressed about it, coz I know there’s a lot of people in a worse situation, but I know how hard it is not to think about it when you spend a long time in front of the mirror trying hard to cover the skin every single day and then if you go out in the rain or if the wind is blowing is screws up everything. I know exactly what you’re going through and I wish I could help you more. For now, all I can tell you is to never give up, always hope it will get better one day. Stay healthy and try not to worry too much, because it doesn’t help at all. Try hard to always see the good side of things.
all the best
Marina
Anna 10.14.08 at 12:54 pm
Linda,
Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I am 24 and have been struggling with thin hair since I was 17. I seem to have the exact same symptoms as you– not a significant amount of daily hair loss, but not enough growth to have a full head of hair. Most don’t seem to notice my thin hair, but it is so obvious to me. I definitely understand the desperation for answers. Most days I can make it work, but when I spend 30 minutes just trying to cover my scalp, it’s hard not to break down. One thing my hair stylist just got me to try that has made things a bit easier is X-fusion: http://www.greatlengthsofevergreen.com/xfusion.htm. It’s no permanent fix, but it definitely makes me feel a little less self-conscious.
Take care,
Anna
Melba 12.11.08 at 11:54 am
Hi Linda,
Unfortunately we all know how you feel, yet fortunately we can all support each other. I’m very sorry you are going through hair loss, it is definitely a very difficult and painful experience. Although there is always more information to read, I have read enough to believe nobody really knows why so many of us lose our hair. While there are your typical cases, there are also many others to baffle us. Do stay as positive as you can, eat healthy, exercise, and make sure to rest. I have a daughter 3 years older than you who is also experiencing hair loss. It kills me that she inherited this gene from me! Then again, where the heck does this hair loss thing come from?
I joined this site not too long ago. At first I felt overwhelmed, and did not want to have this so in my face. Then I realized the support is so genuine that it actually helps and comforts me when I’m feeling down. Please feel free to express yourself freely, and ask as many questions as you want.
Wishing you the best,
Melba (WShair username)